Number of delphi developers across AU & NZ?

Does anyone have any stats on the pool of Delphi developers across Australia and New Zealand? I am gathering some information for a review on hiring additional people for our products at Energy One.

  • What is the total number of Delphi developers in AU & NZ?
  • What are their experience levels?
  • Age brackets (looking at long term technology viability)?

The ADUG member area lists these stats:

  • Australia = 127 (NSW 21, ACT 3, VIC 57, QLD 27, WA 11, SA 8)
  • New Zealand = 5

Anecdotally through reviewing candidates during previous hiring I would estimate that only 1 in 6 Delphi developers is an ADUG member. Any other thoughts on that ratio? That would mean an estimate of around 800 Delphi developers across ANZ.

Has ADUG conducted any kind of survey to get information about members (or non-members) and their level of experience?

There was a worldwide Embarcadero RAD Studio survey in early 2024 but I don’t recall any results of that being published.

I moved from NZ about a year ago. There are at least 30 in NZ, perhaps 40.

Maybe Embarcadero might be a good source.

Most aren’t members of ADUG. Some are members of the now defunct NZ group. I think a mailing list is still live.

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Maybe somewhat related?

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I think you’re going to have to ask you know who to get anything more accurate than your estimate.

There was a leak of the global count once, from an ex-Embarcadero employee a few years back.

In 2018 there were roughly six million Delphi developers (I worked at Embarcadero at the time)

That’s a really hard number to square with the lived experience we have all had as Delphi developers here in Australia.

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Interesting. 6 million? That’s quite a bit more than I would have expected and I wonder if it was accurate.

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Nobody has said how that value was arrived at, so like everything else we see on the internet, apply common sense. :slight_smile:

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I personally do not know how many developers there are worldwide (or even in Australia). I think, it is unlikely to be six million. It would be great if it was, wouldn’t it? I do know that if you count all active copies of Delphi - and that’s not easy - then it is in the millions and the number I have seen suggested is around 3.5 million worldwide, but I hasten to add that’s not something I can say is or isn’t true.

I know it would be convenient for me to have some solid numbers from Idera, the parent company and also holder of such data, but they would choose not to. That’s their prerogative. It’s also a bit of minefield; if they counted all copies activated since Delphi 1 (even if those stats were available which I suspect they are not) it would be many multiples of millions.

I don’t know about you but as a Delphi user since the very first day of Delphi 1 I don’t even know how many times I have installed and activated a version of Delphi or RAD Studio. I even purchased Delphi 8… ahem… and Delphi for PHP… :joy: I also had Kylix. If all those copies were counted as “users” then I personally would swell the numbers by dozens or more. But on the flip side - now I am an employee should I even be counted as ‘a user’? I mean, I use Delphi every single day but would an accurate figure include staff? Probably not.

The only stat I can give you that I know for sure is accurate is that last year we increased our “net new” users (a stat we can track) - people who had never used Delphi or RAD Studio before. Yes, it was a tough market and the current trend appears to be a continued bear market for tech companies, but if I have anything to do with it, and I do, we will continue to push harder to improve quality and ensure we iterate over efforts to add in features that do not compromise quality but also keep the language up to date with modern features and suggestions from users along with thoughtfully including AI in ways that don’t stomp all over your code and email it to your competitors.

Delphi is still an extremely easy to learn language and yet offers the power to creditably compete against the mother of all speed, C++. There is virtually nothing you can’t do in Delphi, often easier than in any other choice out there. No language can be the answer to everything, but Delphi is the answer to most things, and I still say that doing it any other way is doing it the hard way.

AI is coming. AI is here. A lot of things are changing in the world of software development. I think it’s going to be even more relevant in the next six months; Microsoft didn’t invest $6.5billion in AI just to fail or use OpenAI as a 'better spell checker and search engine". DeepSeek turned up at half the cost and must have rattled the doorknobs at Microsoft HQ :crazy_face:

Finally, if the AI writes and compiles your code, is that also an “active user”? :clown_face:

Thanks Ian.

That’s interesting. Do you know where that new growth is and what has driven it? e.g. A few large customers working on some new products, or universities adopting Delphi for CS courses, or just a general global trend?

You can say that again. The rate of advancement and expanding capabilities is pretty astonishing. In five years we may not even care or need to know which programming language is being used as long as the finished product satisfies the requirements, as we may not need to work with the code directly. Sad but that is the clear trajectory that we are on.